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Should You Lease A Car If You Plan To Keep It 10 Years

Hey Cool Car Fans,

Last year someone asked this question on a website and I decided to answer it for them since so many people are anti-leasing today.  I think this is because most people do not take the time to understand how interest rates work on purchasing a vehicle.

Since I own a used car dealership, I primarily finance mostly used vehicles for people.  Most of my clients pay cash or they borrow against the equity in their cash value life insurance policies and pay back the insurance company using an unstructured loan.  This is by far the best way to purchase a vehicle because there isn’t any credit involved and you may payments on your own terms.  I explain this in detail at CoolCarsForLife.com if you’re interested in reading about that strategy.

You can check out my business model by visiting CoolCarGuy.com and what it is that I do.  I figured I would write an article about this topic though since so many people buy vehicles instead of lease vehicles.

13 YEARS LATER

Recently, I had a client track me down who purchased a used Acura MDX from me 13 years ago.  I was 37 years old when she purchased her last vehicle from me and she must have appreciated the experience to track me down again.  She was also impressed with the longevity of her Acura MDX that now had close to 180,000 miles on the odometer.  She was ready for a new one.  This is a woman who keeps her vehicles for a long time and she decided that she wanted a new one.

If she had purchased a new one the interest rate was pretty good, but it wasn’t amazing.  However, by leasing the vehicle her money factor was .00050, which is the equivalent of about a 1.2% effective interest rate.  She also didn’t want a huge payment on a vehicle that had an MSRP of $51,595 and leasing allowed her to only make payments on the depreciation of the vehicle.  By leasing it using what is commonly called a “closed-end lease” today, she was able to lock in the residual value and purchase the vehicle in the future for around $29,000.

THE RESIDUAL VALUE

Most leasing companies design their leases in such a way that if you go over the miles you purchase they are going to hit you with $.10, $.15, $.20 or $.25 a mile should you turn the vehicle back into the leasing company.  There are actually some leasing companies and manufacturers that will hammer you for the miles, even if you don’t turn the vehicle back in, which is crazy.  I’ve seen Mercedes-Benz do this and it’s a total “jerk”‘ move because you’re buying the vehicle and they don’t have any assumed risk or additional depreciation that it is costing them.

If it’s an “open-end commercial lease”, like on a truck for a construction company, then it makes sense to charge for the depreciation without a guaranteed residual value because they are structuring the lease that way upfront based on future unknowns.  The company might beat the crap out of the truck and it will be worth thousands less at the end of the lease, so the residual may not be locked in or it might be extremely low.   You want to make sure you read the lease agreement or know what you’re getting into when you lease a vehicle for sure and most people don’t.  When they get burned at the end they are ticked off because they thought that their Mercedes-Benz lease worked like their previous Toyota lease.

LEASING STANDARDS

Typically though, most leasing companies are going to structure their residual so that if you stay within the miles and you give the vehicle back they can sell it at auction and not lose money.  They are going to give you the option of buying the vehicle out without nailing  you for miles on top of the residual value, which is the right thing to do since you are sharing in the risk on the vehicle with them.  Some leasing companies, usually manufacturer’s like BMW for example, will put a really high residual on their car and that can give you a low payment, but they are banking on people going over their mileage, giving the car back and collecting money on tires, wear and tear and the mileage hit before sending it to auction or letting a franchise dealership buy it back.

The benefit though is that if you get the right lease and you lock-in the residual value then the miles are not really that important on the right vehicle.  An Acura MDX for example that you can buy for around $29,000 in three years with 12,000 miles a year is going to more than likely retail for more than that amount with 36,000 miles.  Which means that if you put on 45,000 miles you can still buy it out at the end of the lease and drive it another six to ten years and you should still be in great shape.  You have a lower payment for the first three years and a manageable payment if you choose to finance the remainder for the another three or five years.

I’ve leased Subaru’s, Honda’s and Toyota’s to people here in Colorado where they will look at the residual after three years and they realize they are in an “equity position” at the end of the lease term.  Often times they will call me and just ask me to help them buy their vehicle at the end of the lease.  The Toyota Tacoma or 4Runner is a great example of this kind of a strategy and many of the Subaru’s like the Crosstrek.  You get to the end of the lease and you realize that if you give it back to the leasing company Toyota or Subaru are going to sell it at auction for a few thousand less than what they are selling for online.  Why wouldn’t you just buy it out and sell it yourself or keep it?  These are what I refer to as an “equity lease” because you have equity in the vehicle at the end of the lease term.

GETTING THE VEHICLE YOU REALLY WANT

Instead of running around looking for the obscure off-lease, hard to find, overpriced used vehicle you could be driving a new vehicle and financing it over a longer term knowing that you’re going to keep it for 12 or 13 years like my client decided to do.  The first few years she is paying very little of the lease payment in interest and most of her payment is going toward depreciation.

Some of you may be thinking this is a really bad idea because you are financing the vehicle over a longer term.  The reality is the amount of interest she will pay is less for the first three years and she is going to keep the vehicle longer than someone who is buying a vehicle that already has three, four or even five years of driving on it.  This is the mistake and the reality that the financial wizards giving people bad advice don’t seem to understand.

If you buy a vehicle with 45,000 miles on it and you drive it for five years at 20,000 miles a year your vehicle now has 145,000 miles on it and it’s pretty much worthless.   If you finance or lease a new vehicle and you drive it for eight or ten years and it has 160,000 miles on it at 20,000 miles a year, it’s worth about the same as the genius who has 145,000 miles on their used vehicle.   The difference is your vehicle had a full warranty and no wear and tear on it to start.  In fact, you will probably get 9 or 10 years out of it as the original owner and are much more likely to maintain the vehicle to last.  The depreciation on a vehicle once it hits 145,000 miles compared to 180,000 miles is negligible.

The fact is that most people have to get out of their vehicles sooner than planned because they are paying too much in monthly payments to maintain them.  When a costly repair comes they have to unload them because they can’t afford the repair costs on their used car that they are still making payments on.
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Auto Consultant – John Boyd: The Cool Car Guy
John is an auto consultant who owns CoolCarGuy.com that is a licensed car dealership in Lone Tree, CO.  He can help you save time and money on any make or model, new or used, lease or purchase – nationwide! Call or email John about your next vehicle! jboyd@coolcarguy.com or Twitter @coolcarguy

What To Know Before You Swap Out Someone’s Lease

Hey Cool Car Fans,

A few times a year I will get an email or a phone call from someone asking me if they should take over someone else’s lease.  There are websites that offer this service and I’ve done this for some of my clients as well, not through those websites, but directly through the leasing company.  I only would do this when it makes sense.

I figured I would write a quick article about the benefits and disasters that can occur in assuming a lease or using a lease buyout service.

WHEN TAKING OVER SOMEONE’S LEASE MAKES SENSE

First of all, it rarely ever makes sense to take over someone’s lease because you are assuming the remainder of their financial obligation.

However, if you have credit issues and the person’s lease that you’re assuming has stellar credit you could really hit pay dirt.  The problem is that you have to get the leasing company to authorize you to assume their lease, so they are going to require that you have good enough credit and the financial ability to pay back the lease.  There is where the problem lies for most people because if the person who has the original lease obligation has better credit and a better financial situation than the person applying to assume the lease, what is the incentive for the leasing company?

The other time it can make sense is if you want to buy the vehicle at the end of the lease term and the person trying to get out of the lease doesn’t have that many payments left on it.  For example, let’s say that you are interested in buying a 2017 Porsche Macan.  You could take over someone’s lease that they have for $996 a month for 18 months and if the residual to buy it out at the end is $31.141 that could play really well for you.  You’re grabbing a much more expensive vehicle for under $50,000.   I saw this exact opportunity by the way.  Again, you have to see if it makes sense or if you are better off just buying the vehicle as I will discuss next.

WHY TAKING OVER SOMEONE’S LEASE USUALLY DOESN’T MAKE SENSE

As I mentioned before, assuming a lease could make sense if you have credit challenges and you can get a better lease payment than you would get on your own.  However, what if you have better credit than the person who’s lease you are assuming?  They maybe at a 6% effective interest rate and you could be getting a lease on your own at a near 0% effective interest.  The lease is being sold based on a payment, but it in fact might be a really terrible lease that you are assuming.

The residual may also be terrible as well.  If your goal is to give the vehicle back at the end of the lease and you can stay within the remaining miles that could be a good option for you.  What if you go over the miles though and the lease is setup where you have to pay $.25 or $,30 a mile for each mile that you go over?  If you go over by 10,000 miles you could be writing a check at the end of the lease for $2,500 or $3,000 to give the vehicle back.   What if you want to buy it out at the end of the lease term, but the leasing company bet wrong and put too high of a residual for the marketplace?  Then you’re in a situation where the best option is to give it back, so you basically just rented the vehicle with a higher level of risk.

If you have good credit and they have  the vehicle you want with a great residual than instead of assuming the lease, you might be far better off buying out the person’s lease for their remaining payments and the residual value.  You could then finance the vehicle or lease it using a used vehicle lease based on the buyout value.  This could work far better if you have good credit, instead of leasing a vehicle based on someone else’s credit.

 

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Auto Consultant – John Boyd: The Cool Car Guy
John is an auto consultant who owns CoolCarGuy.com that is a licensed car dealership in Lone Tree, CO.  He can help you save time and money on any make or model, new or used, lease or purchase – nationwide! Call or email John about your next vehicle! jboyd@coolcarguy.com or Twitter @coolcarguy

How To Lower Your Car Payments

Hey Cool Car Fans,

Many times people will decide that they want to purchase a home, but their debt to income ratio is too high.  They may have a great job and the income and they have even saved for a down payment, but their car payments are preventing them from being able to purchase a home.

The first thing that we can do is refinance the person’s current vehicle and lease it back to them that can sometimes really lower their payments.  I recently had a client who was able to lower their payment on a 2012 Infiniti QX56 from over $800 a month down to $422 a month by leasing the vehicle, instead of continuing with her current payment structure.  Being able to lower her payments really helped her with cash flow based on her financial situation.

Many people have lifestyle changes and they don’t look at this as an option.  For example, if a person can lease a vehicle and have a lower payment than they have money available for qualifying for a home or funding an investment grade cash value life insurance policy.  This can be a great strategy that will allow someone to put money away that they can use for other funding options.

As a licensed life insurance agent in the State of Colorado I can show people how to leverage the benefits of dividend paying whole life insurance from a mutual life insurance company.  One of the tremendous benefits of these products is that a person can invest in a policy, have a death benefit and build cash value to borrow against in the future for opportunities like financing their own vehicles without credit and at really low interest rates.  There are huge benefits to this strategy that I won’t go into detail here, but it’s an example of how if you can lower your car payments you can have other financial opportunities available to you.

I’ve had a number of people who have refinanced their vehicles by either financing or leasing them to lower their payments, but another option is to trade out of the current vehicle and into another vehicle.  This is another strategy that many people don’t think about and they miss out on a way better financial opportunity.

400For example, many people are told by the television and radio “financial gurus” never to lease a vehicle, but what if you have an opportunity to buy a home at a great price?  Let’s hypothetically say that you have a $600 a month car payment that is holding you back from qualifying for a home, but you only need $200 more a month in cash flow and you would qualify for the purchase.  What if you could get out of it, lease something similar in a different brand and have a $400 a month payment for three years with miles that would work for you?  That’s $2,400 a year, which over three years is $7,200 in savings.  This is money you can use for other opportunities or save for the future.

Let’s assume that you are $4,000 upside down though to get out of your $600 a month payment?  That is still $3,200 in savings over three years with much better cash flow, when you subtract the $4,000 from the $7,200.  This is what many people don’t think about.  What if you are able to purchase a home for $10,000 less because of the market in your particular area and you can now do that because of your improved cash flow?   Suddenly, that $4,000 in negative equity on the vehicle that you rolled into a lease makes perfect financial sense because you immediately saved $10,000 on the home purchase.  Over three years, the home you purchased is probably going to appreciate in value as well.

“Typically in the U.S., property prices rise 3.5 percent per year, Humphries says, and since about the middle of 2013, they’ve gone up 6 to 8 percent a year.” – Source: USNews.com

“The median home value in the United States is $189,400. United States home values have gone up 5.5% over the past year and Zillow predicts they will rise 2.9% within the next year.” – Source: Zillow.com

This is just one example of how it can make sense to lower your payments using a lease, trading out of a vehicle and purchasing or leasing a different vehicle or even doing a refinance for better cash flow.  As I mentioned already, I also show people how to use this type of a strategy to put the additional savings into an investment grade cash value life insurance product that also goes on the asset side of a balance sheet.  This can allow a person to put money away over three to five years and begin building a stronger financial foundation for themselves.

The bottom line is that sometimes it can make more sense to finance or lease a vehicle and lower payments depending on a person’s unique financial situation.  Everyone’s situation is different and people have life changes, including divorce, health concerns, retirement, credit challenges or opportunities that they want to take advantage of, so I have found that there is rarely a one-size fits all solution.

It’s honestly never a cut and dry statement such as “you should never lease a vehicle” or “you should never refinance a vehicle” or “you should never buy whole life insurance” like so many of the “financial gurus” like to claim.  Sometimes it makes perfect sense.  I’ve seen many people really improve their financial situation by restructuring their automobiles and the way that they go about financing or leasing them.

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John Boyd

Auto Consultant – John Boyd: The Cool Car Guy

John is an auto consultant with his license at a car dealership in Denver, Colorado. He can help you save time and money on any make or model, new or used, lease or purchase – nationwide! Call or email John about your next vehicle! jboyd@coolcarguy.com or Twitter @coolcarguy

Can You Get Rid Of Negative Equity On Your Vehicle

Hey Cool Car Fans,

2015 Chrysler 300C Platinum
2015 Chrysler 300C Platinum

I am always amazed by some of the articles that I read from financial gurus, like one guy who recently wrote in an article on the topic of negative equity that “If you have negative equity in your vehicle, you shouldn’t be trying to buy a different vehicle.” Really?  That is really ridiculous because every used vehicle is different.  That is a bit like saying that if you are losing money on a stock in the stock market that is dropping in value, you should never sell it, but just wait until it comes back someday.

What if the vehicle you are upside down on is a piece of junk that you keep having to sink money into a financial black hole at the repair shop?  How is that a financially wise decision?  I see it happen to people more often than I care to because every vehicle is different.  Like the person I recently spoke with who purchased an old Isuzu Trooper for $2,000 on Craigslist and now they are into it for $8,000 after repair bills and it’s still not running well.  There is a shocker!  They asked me what to do and I told them to sell it and cut their losses.

Many of these “financial experts” advise their students to drive around a 1995 Honda Civic that they found on Craigslist for $500 to “save money”, while they are earning millions from their books, radio programs and television appearances.  I doubt that they are driving around a junk car like they want all of their listeners to drive around.  I digress, but here’s my two cents on negative equity.

First of all, there are ways to get rid of negative equity.  Especially if you know how to structure a lease properly and you can find the right new or slightly used vehicle that can carry the negative equity into the lease.  This way you can get a payment that won’t kill your budget, while getting a new or newer vehicle that is under warranty.

2015RamRebelRecently, I looked at a deal on an AWD Chrysler 300C that could bury as much as $9,000 in negative equity using a unique lease program that had to be done outside of the manufacturer.  I also saw a deal on a four door RAM 1500 truck that had a similar program that could bury around $6,000, or even more depending on qualifications, in negative equity using a third-party lease program.

That’s pretty significant and the benefit is that at the end of the lease a person can start over, while having a late model vehicle that isn’t going to be breaking the bank on their wallet or breaking down on the highway.  I have also done a number of leases on late model used vehicles to bury negative equity that goes into the lease structure, so that at the end of the lease term the person has eliminated their negative equity. Most of the time people will buy out the vehicle at the end of the lease since they are typically in an equity position instead of a negative equity position at the end of the lease.

Let me state clearly though that not everyone knows how to do this just because they work at a car dealership.  There are many horror stories about “leasing”, which is why people tend to shy away from them.  If you are not working with someone who knows what they are doing, you can get burned and end up still having your negative equity at the end of the lease.  And just because someone calls themselves an auto broker or a finance manager doesn’t mean that they have a clue about how to properly structure a lease for maximum benefit.  I know owners of dealerships who have told me that they have no clue about leasing and are as ignorant as the average person off the street.  In fact, you can have the same payment on the same vehicle with two different leasing companies and one has more money going toward interest, while the other is going more toward lowering the purchase value at the end.

This doesn’t mean that leases should be avoided though.  People lose money in the Stock Market all the time, but that doesn’t mean that there are not people earning money on the same stock that someone else lost money on.  It all depends on the knowledge and expertise of the person who is involved in the transaction.  Leasing is not the only option, but I have eliminated negative equity with financing the right vehicle as well.  I just think that leasing works much better most of the time because you are not dealing with the full amount of the vehicle like on a finance.

So, if you know someone with negative equity and they are frustrated about their situation be sure and let them know that there are potential solutions available to them to solve their problem.  Their only option is not necessarily to keep driving their vehicle until they have eliminated all of their negative equity.  It is dependent on the entire situation and the structure though, including the amount of negative equity, the condition of their current vehicle, their credit, job history, money or no money down, required monthly payment and what they are willing to drive to solve their problem.

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John Boyd

Auto Consultant – John Boyd: The Cool Car Guy

John is an auto consultant with his license at a car dealership in Denver, Colorado. He can help you save time and money on any make or model, new or used, lease or purchase – nationwide! Call or email John about your next vehicle! jboyd@coolcarguy.com or Twitter @coolcarguy